hey guys.
i've had a pretty tough day today and i'd sure appreciate some good vibes and words of encouragment.. thanks..
Hey Abandoned, you're not abandoned!
Thanx for your encouragement yesterday. I sure needed it when you made your comment on spunk. The thread was "I Wanna Be Around". Looked like another one of my lead and dead threads. You and all the others made my day! It would cheer me up if you'd read my concluding comments (no posters so far today so it's a bit back). Just go with the flow---we're all so happy you are here.
Cheerfully,
CoCo
i used to be here a real lot.
now i make about 15 posts , if that,.
per day and read a few other threads that interest me.
Hello Casual and Nonchalant Users of the Forum,
None of us is obsessed nor lacking in meaningful personal relationships. We could leave momentarily and not suffer any form of withdrawal, surely no separation anxiety. Easy for you to say. I'm a people person, but I am allowing myself a rest cure due to the trauma and drama of the last five years. I am dealing with emotional turbulence with certain people---all JWs---so I find JWD a restorative and upbuilding venue. We are helping one another, which is good, but the boundaries (oceans between us) are healthy boundaries. Good fences make good neighbors. Not everyone has to be my friend. I think I am growing up. I think I'll go for a walk.
Was I wrong to stay home today to be with YOU?
Questioningly,
CoCo
one thing i've noticed with dubs is that anything that could possibly (no matter how small the link is) be related to the watchtower society, religion or even their own personal beliefs and thoughts - they are suddenly on the defense.. .
today me, my aunt and my mum were at the kitchen table talking about mind control and about how anyone could be made to kill, take their own life, hurt others, believe something e.t.c and mum was disagreeing with that, saying people have a choice.
then suddenly after standing up, when the conversation was nearly over she said "well i dont think i am being controlled" or something like that.
Dear KW13,
I just finished the Matrix trilogy last night and, at last, I understand the allusions to the ORG! The bad guys (machines) were acting in desperation because of those getting unplugged, or freed. Hope I got that right. Anyway, the Society acknowledges in the literature that truth can undergo close scrutiny and win. Well, information is the enemy of THE TRUTH. We are not the only ones aware of the lies. My feeling is that the sense of desperation that the Society displays through its authoritarian tactics is infecting the membership on a subconscious level. If Mom and Dad are on edge and acting weird, little Johnny and Mary pick up on those bad vibes and kick the dog. Jehovah's people are NOT happy. Though they seem grounded, their spiritual foundation is built on sand and the house is not fire-resistant.
Given all you've read here, KW, you surely know that love (and patience and endurance, etc.) are the answer. Don't give up!
Yours truly,
CoCo
my mom just informed me that a 17 year old has been disfellowshipped at her hall.at least 7 others have been kicked out within the last 5 years.the publisher count is only 56 .why do they let the teens get baptized so young?
i was 14 and only got baptized because of pressure and the end was coming.if you weren't baptized you would be destroyed.. why don't they wait until everyone is at leat 21?
all these teens haven't come back and you won't ever see them unless they return.i haven't seen my cousin in over 2 years.no one went to his wedding,isn't invited to any family functions and is to be avoided at all costs.. the watchtower society should be ashamed that they act that way and the parents let them get away with it..
Dear, badly-treated XJW4EVR,
How absolutely rotten! The miserable treatment meted out to you resonates due to what a young man revealed to me last month. I haven't seen him in years, though he had been a neighbor and attended the KH with his family. We ran into each other in town and talked for over an hour. His revelations were heart-rending. I was enraged. A sweet, good-natured kid, who wanted only to please his dear mom and be morally upright, was hounded relentlessly by an elder. Why? For the sin of skateboarding! The young man and family are still all together, working and prospering. I was moved when he told me that I was one of a very few he remembered fondly. Well, it's now time to renew old acquaintances. He's become an articulate and well-read man, having gone to college, and appears to display none of the "new personality". I thank God for that!
You're certainly in a much better place now, XJW. I wish you well!
CoCo
visualize me doing my best "jim carrey" gag reflex.. .
----- directions to the spiritual paradise.. when leaving the worldly mall make a turn around and go to faith blvd.
keep straight on lamp to my roadway.there, you must turn onto the endurance bridge, which is over troubled water.
Hello Watson----
"I never metaphor I didn't like."
In this case, I'll make an exception. These pseudo-poetical commentaries on the "Theocratic Life" used to get to me emotionally and were subsequently a means to put THE TRUTH in my head. I love beautiful words and sayings, but when they purport to be the Word of God and are only cheap substitutes, they are worthless drivel. The simplicity of the Gospel wins---hands down!
No longer taken in by cheap talk,
CoCo
Hi Frog!
From Webster's New Twentieth Century Dictionary-Unabridged-Second Edition:
Rodentia: an order of mammals having two (rarely four) large incisor teeth in each jaw...The rat, mouse, squirrel, marmot, muscrat, beaver, etc. belong to this order. Also called GLIRES.
I wasn't sure at first but had heard it years ago. Wanted to check my sources for accuracy before this hit the press. Thank you for your inquiry.
CoCo, ed.
NEWS FLASH from the rurals of Rodentia-------
"Bucky Beaver, retired spokesrodent for Ipana Toothpaste, found dead today. Probable cause of death: choked on toothpick while attending to oral hygiene."
CoCo
Greetings Jeff!
"Feeling a little logy today, Love?"
"Leave it to Beaver."
"Clear-cutters get it in the neck."
"Poems are made by fools like me,
But only rodents can kill a tree."
(profuse apologies to Sgt. Kilmer)
Bright Eager And Very Effective Rodent,
CoCo Glires
patsy cline made us cry when she 'went to pieces.
' tony bennett wanted "to be around to pick up the pieces when somebody breaks your heart".
as i was reflecting upon johnny mercer and sadie vimmerstedt's hit "i wanna be around", it occurred to me that we have had our collective hearts broken.
Dearest EVERYONE (most recently: MsMcDucket, Baba, and Choosing Life),
"What a Difference a Day Makes"---sorry, another song title, can't help it. All of you have turned my day around. A comment I made a few days ago on one of Jeff's threads was about whether or not I should continue posting here. I have benefited so much from everyones' experiences but figured my contributions were of no importance. Well, it seems Lady Lee's words are true: one person speaking out WILL make a difference. But we are a collective. I guess, then, it's possible to be humble and modest but still feel you're needed!
MsMcDucket---"You can't make me!"---love it!
Baba---"Jehovah never left me; he and I communicated."---I still have that attachment (40 plus years) and belief despite everything. Your words are perfect.
Choosing Life---I'm helping a mentally ill DF'd person who was good to me when he was stable. I cannot abandon him but it takes all I've got to keep my sanity. Another DF'd friend saved me from suicide many years ago. I honestly believe Jehovah intervened on my behalf---can't prove it, but I won't be dissuaded. Your point that our being present at meetings gives tacit approval to the Society's ways is well taken. Of course, those here who continue to attend have their reasons and we respect that decision. I used to be there, for my family, hoping and praying, until I could do it no longer. I miss them terribly.
I posted an Emily Dickinson poem a while back---seems apropos now.
NOT IN VAIN
If I can stop one heart from breaking,
I shall not live in vain:
If I can ease one life the aching,
Or cool one pain,
Or help one fainting robin
Unto his nest again,
I shall not live in vain.
Poetically and prosaically yours,
CoCo
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patsy cline made us cry when she 'went to pieces.
' tony bennett wanted "to be around to pick up the pieces when somebody breaks your heart".
as i was reflecting upon johnny mercer and sadie vimmerstedt's hit "i wanna be around", it occurred to me that we have had our collective hearts broken.
Hey jeff and Abandoned,
Wow! I'm going to spend some time pondering all these thoughts. JEFF, on loving people and looking past the hypocrisy, the dirt-swept-under-the carpet bulging through: I relate, especially as I grieved and cried over all those horrible revelations and the lack of concern and failure to redress on the part of the GB. The WT is guilty of idolatry and bloodshed. Per their warnings of many years stuck in my head---and craw--- remove yourselves from the unclean thing, so I did! ABANDONED, on having spunk and not worrying about angering God or stumbling your brother: I'm developing spunk, which is a leap forward for Caspar Milquetoast. And I'm getting way past the contention that breaking a WT rule is going to stumble and ruin my bro. I try to use tact and discernment, but I'm learning when to go the other route---spunk!
Thanks again, you guys!
Feeling hopeful,
CoCo
